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Elder III · Mar 31, 2010, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by malevolence

Hello, just in case , can anyone recommend me a good power supply for my system ? I know I have a good one , but I need to try my system with a different one to make sure my power supply is ok. Thank you.

I'd go for a 750-800 watt Corsair, Thermaltake, OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, Antec, Enermax, or Zalman with at least 50 or more combined amps on the +12V rail(s).

malevolence · Mar 31, 2010, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder III

I'd go for a 750-800 watt Corsair, Thermaltake, OCZ, PC Power & Cooling, Antec, Enermax, or Zalman with at least 50 or more combined amps on the +12V rail(s).

Cool , I will search for one , also considering that my current power supply doesn't work correctly then it will be replaced by this one, and I am planning to buy a new video card (maybe a HD 5970

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Wich one is better , corsair TX750W or corsair HX750 ? it will work with an HD 5970 ?

Elder III · Mar 31, 2010, 03:36 PM // 15:36

^ only real difference is the HX version is SIlver Certified and costs allot more - I'd get the TX - it is the same in every other aspect. Either one will handle a 5970 or any other video card on the market.

malevolence · Mar 31, 2010, 03:46 PM // 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elder III

^ only real difference is the HX version is SIlver Certified and costs allot more - I'd get the TX - it is the same in every other aspect. Either one will handle a 5970 or any other video card on the market.

Thanks for the tip

malevolence · Mar 31, 2010, 08:52 PM // 20:52

How long do i need to run 3Dmark vantage ? right now is running for about 4 hours , no crash no errors with Physx and Multi GPU enable

malevolence · Apr 01, 2010, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Ladies and gentlements , It seem I finally found the origin of the issue, belive it or not, is my primary HDD !!!

Now , I don't know what is going on , but I turned on my PC today and crashed before windows boot (at windows 7 logo screen) so I rebooted , then a screen is asking to repair the PC , but as this happened every time I boot the PC for the first time of the day , I decided to go throguh the bios and disable a couple of things like JMicron etc.

Then my PC didn't boot at all , it was asking to start windows normaly or to run the windows repair, didn't matters what I choose , I couldn't go out of that screen.

Then I reboot the PC again and went to the bios and enabled the JMicron drivers again , then windows started normaly but , but windows found my HDD and it recognize it as an ATA instead of SATA .

SO I am stuck now, how can I setup my bios so windows can recognize my HDD as SATA and not as ATA, I believe the issue is here , as onces I ran the Windows repair and said that there is a problem with driver 6.1.7600.16385 , but I didn't know what was it as windows repair couldn't fix it , so now , I found out in the properties of my HDD the driver is 6.1.7600.16385 !

Can someone tell me how to setup this ?

Thanks.

malevolence · Apr 01, 2010, 08:03 PM // 20:03

damn it , just got a BSOD that is not readable ! Check the photo I took with my iphone.

Información adicional del problema:
BCCode: 116
BCP1: FFFFFA8001F5B4E0
BCP2: FFFFF8800F7E4CB0
BCP3: FFFFFFFFC000009A
BCP4: 0000000000000004
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Archivos que ayudan a describir el problema:
C:\Windows\Minidump\040110-14554-01.dmp
C:\Users\malevolence\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-22323-0.sysdata.xml

Lea nuestra declaración de privacidad en línea:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...8&clcid=0x0c0a

Si la declaración de privacidad en línea no está disponible, lea la declaración de privacidad sin conexión:
C:\Windows\system32\es-ES\erofflps.txt

malevolence · Apr 01, 2010, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Finally , found the way to analize the BSOD/crash I am getting

AND... TADA ! Video Driver issue !

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* Bugcheck Analysis *
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VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE (116)
Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed.
Arguments:
Arg1: fffffa8001f5b4e0, Optional pointer to internal TDR recovery context (TDR_RECOVERY_CONTEXT).
Arg2: fffff8800f7e4cb0, The pointer into responsible device driver module (e.g. owner tag).
Arg3: ffffffffc000009a, Optional error code (NTSTATUS) of the last failed operation.
Arg4: 0000000000000004, Optional internal context dependent data.

Debugging Details:
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FAULTING_IP:
nvlddmkm+756cb0
fffff880`0f7e4cb0 803d21ad530000 cmp byte ptr [nvlddmkm+0xc919d8 (fffff880`0fd1f9d8)],0

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_FAULT

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x116

PROCESS_NAME: System

CURRENT_IRQL: 0

STACK_TEXT:
fffff880`04a4eb88 fffff880`040b0cbc : 00000000`00000116 fffffa80`01f5b4e0 fffff880`0f7e4cb0 ffffffff`c000009a : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffff880`04a4eb90 fffff880`04084867 : fffff880`0f7e4cb0 fffffa80`0415d000 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`c000009a : dxgkrnl!TdrBugcheckOnTimeout+0xec
fffff880`04a4ebd0 fffff880`040b0acb : fffffa80`ffffd87b ffffffff`fffe7960 fffffa80`01f5b4e0 fffff880`041811de : dxgkrnl!DXGADAPTER::Reset+0x2a3
fffff880`04a4ec80 fffff880`0417fec1 : fffffa80`0425e950 00000000`00000080 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`04158010 : dxgkrnl!TdrResetFromTimeout+0x23
fffff880`04a4ed00 fffff800`02d2e166 : 00000000`0246b2cf fffffa80`041b1620 fffffa80`0184a890 fffffa80`041b1620 : dxgmms1!VidSchiWorkerThread+0x101
fffff880`04a4ed40 fffff800`02a69486 : fffff800`02c03e80 fffffa80`041b1620 fffff800`02c11c40 fffff880`0123b534 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x5a
fffff880`04a4ed80 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxStartSystemThread+0x16

STACK_COMMAND: .bugcheck ; kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
nvlddmkm+756cb0
fffff880`0f7e4cb0 803d21ad530000 cmp byte ptr [nvlddmkm+0xc919d8 (fffff880`0fd1f9d8)],0

SYMBOL_NAME: nvlddmkm+756cb0

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: nvlddmkm

IMAGE_NAME: nvlddmkm.sys

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4b9f39fc

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x116_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys

BUCKET_ID: X64_0x116_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys

Followup: MachineOwner

SO my guess is the video card , once again , is the fault here , so I will call the company where I bought it , and complain about it ! I RMA it like 4 times already ! and they keep giving me a faulty one. geeez !

Aera · Apr 01, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

In that case, get another videocard in the same price range if possible. It happens very rarely, but sometimes certain motherboards dont go together with certain videocards.

This could be easy to test of course by borrowing someone else's and trying it on your setup.

malevolence · Apr 01, 2010, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aera

In that case, get another videocard in the same price range if possible. It happens very rarely, but sometimes certain motherboards dont go together with certain videocards.

This could be easy to test of course by borrowing someone else's and trying it on your setup.

Yes , I have another PC here at the moment from my Brother, I will install on that one , but I had an XFX 790i Ultra before and I had the same issue , Support recommended me to change the motherboard as the 790i ultra had many problems, so I got a simple motherboard , the P5P43TD PRO.

The only thing on my system that I didn't change is the CPU. As far as I know the CPU and the memory are the only pieces I can say they work. They passed any kind of stress test (prime95, memtest)

Another part of the story is that this 9800gx2 , few months before , it reached temperatures of up to 120º C in less than 5 minutes of Furmark stability test (see my previous Thread about it) , so I RMAd the card but the support department said they tested the card for 12 hours and temps were normal, strangelly , when I received the same 9800GX2 the temps were ok , not crossing the 70ºC as it was 2 years ago when I bought the card. So I think they changed something or cleaned the video card inside , anyway , I am angry because since the first day I received this card from the RMA is not working, and this happend 4 times already ! And believe me , they crossed my line , tomorrow I will call and insist they change the video card (I have proofs, BSODs , screenshots etc etc.), and of course last time I buy from them ever, I had enough.

malevolence · Apr 02, 2010, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Found a temporary fix , I was reading the whole night about the GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_FAULT and in some forums they recommend to use the windows 7 seven drivers and not the Nvidia one , and it just work , but as I don't have nvidia control panel , I don't know if I am running multi-gpu ? or if physx is enabled ? Anyway , this is a temp solution until I get a new videocard

Is the video card faulty ? or is this only driver related ?

Anyway I am planning to get a HD 5970 , and as is a multi-gpu , I wonder if it will work with my mobo P5P43TD PRO

Lord Sojar · Apr 02, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by malevolence

Found a temporary fix , I was reading the whole night about the GRAPHICS_DRIVER_TDR_FAULT and in some forums they recommend to use the windows 7 seven drivers and not the Nvidia one , and it just work , but as I don't have nvidia control panel , I don't know if I am running multi-gpu ? or if physx is enabled ? Anyway , this is a temp solution until I get a new videocard

Is the video card faulty ? or is this only driver related ?

Anyway I am planning to get a HD 5970 , and as is a multi-gpu , I wonder if it will work with my mobo P5P43TD PRO

In my opinion, stay away from multi GPU solutions. They are nothing but trouble for troubleshooting reasons. (Well, the new SLi mode on the GTX400 series is awesome, but it's an expensive proposition).

I will warn you... if you are used to the nVidia control panel, and like the game profiles thing, etc, you might kill yourself trying to use Catalyst Control Center. It's...horrible. 10.3 drivers seem to have fixed performance issues, but CCC is still terrible.

I'd recommend going to an HD5870 or a GTX480, but it's up to you.

malevolence · Apr 03, 2010, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

In my opinion, stay away from multi GPU solutions. They are nothing but trouble for troubleshooting reasons. (Well, the new SLi mode on the GTX400 series is awesome, but it's an expensive proposition).

I will warn you... if you are used to the nVidia control panel, and like the game profiles thing, etc, you might kill yourself trying to use Catalyst Control Center. It's...horrible. 10.3 drivers seem to have fixed performance issues, but CCC is still terrible.

I'd recommend going to an HD5870 or a GTX480, but it's up to you.

Thanks Rahja , I will see wich one then the HD5870 or GTX480. Lets see if nvidia is good with its drivers

. And yeah I know CCC

malevolence · Apr 03, 2010, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Well, the temporary fix doesn't work either...... just had the same crash while playing gw...

Anyway , after the crash I got a message in the bios to fix the overclocking O_o , but I am not doing overclocking , according to the Asus manual , I need to setup my RAM memory at 1333mhz (my ram is 1600Mhz) , and all in the bios is setup with the Corsair recommended timings and volt.

Anyway I put in auto the timing and the bios setup at default my RAM to 1066mhz.

All the Prime95 test were done with my memory at 1333Mhz (test over 12 hours !) and Memtest86 at 1333Mhz too (16 hours test !)

Did my motherboard just become crasy ? or this can be video card related too ? lol

malevolence · Apr 03, 2010, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Ok , now things are really scary and I have no idea what is failing !

I installed my video card and my PSU on my brother's computer , and it works 100% perfect , so the video card is perfect ! and also the PSU. So the Video card is safe , PSU is safe and is not drivers issue ! My brohter is running exactly the same windows 7 as I do (because I installed). Note: My bro has a DDR2 mobo so I cannot test my ram there.

Now , there is something that doesn't work on my PC , it can be HDD , RAM , CPU or Mobo

Damn , I ordered a new kit of RAM : OCZ Memory Platinum 4 GB, PC3-10666, 1333 MHz, 7, Non-ECC, Kit Of 2

According to the my Mobo compatibility list , this one works in any setup at 1333Mhz.

Now if that fails , what do you guys think this is about ? Mobo ? CPU ? RAM ? HDD ?

Elder III · Apr 04, 2010, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Ram and HDD are easy enough to swap out and check with other parts - mobo or CPU is what you have left whenever you eliminate every other possibility.

malevolence · Apr 07, 2010, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Alright, today got the new modules (OCZ Platinum 4 GB DDR3) configured in bios at 1333Mhz 7-7-7-20 1.8V.

Tada , I was gaming the whole day lol (lucky I got a day off at work

) and the PC works perfect , I don't want to jinx it but it was stable, playing avp for hours, then gw for a couple of hours then back to avp for hours.... and it didn't crash, no errors , nada nada nada

The corsair kit , I don't know what is the problem with it , I can ran stress test / memtest the whole day and is fine , but gaming.....

Are the modules damaged ? or it is compatibility issues ? I would love to know that so I can sell my Corsair kit.

cheers.

malevolence · Apr 08, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Bad news, my pc just crashed , while watching a youtube video , and it crashed the same old way ! ....

Now , only 3 components , HDD , mobo or CPU.

Memory modules are brand new as I mentioned before , I tested my PSU and Video card on my brother's PC and they work perfect.

Now, I will test on another HDD and see if it is the HDD giving me the problem.

malevolence · Apr 15, 2010, 02:00 PM // 14:00

OK , what I have done in the past few days;

-Opened a case with Asus. Answer: Send the motherboard to the Reseller for repair.
-Opened a topic at the Reseller. They recommended to check OCZ website for RAM settings. They pinted at Video Card and PSU as faulty, but I told them they work 100% on another PC, tested by myself for 4 days in a row.
-Opened a topic in OCZ forums regarding RAM settings. Answer: I am currently running the correct settings for the RAM.

What is still pending;
-Try another HDD
-Try a different windows version
-Test with another CPU
-I still have my XFX 790i ultra motherboard around so I may try with it.

I will update soon.

Elder III · Apr 16, 2010, 01:01 AM // 01:01

try it with whatever compatible parts that you have access to, don't rma it until last resort, since you might not see it again for a month (or more). :/